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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1294
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- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 31 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1294
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- Today's Topics:
- GAY INTERNATIONAL HAM RADIO CLUB
- Mac users!! Read this!!!
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- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 14:48:40 GMT
- From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rcanders@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: GAY INTERNATIONAL HAM RADIO CLUB
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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- In article <dbledsoeCFC8z4.2C4@netcom.com> dbledsoe@netcom.com (Donnelly R. Bledsoe) writes:
- >From: "James L. Kelly" <jimkelly@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
- >Subject: LARC vs ARRL
- >
- >Hello Everyone,
- >
- >Don (WB6LYI) has received a number of very supportive E-Mail messages from
- >hams in response to his posting of a general LARC informational message to
- >several ham newsgroups on the Internet.
- >
- >The support we're receiving proves that there are many fair-minded hams
- >who do not support discrimination against gays. Some of them are even
- >willing to go to bat for us with their ARRL officials!
- >
- >We have done two things to get us to this point. First, we've challenged
- >the discrimination directed at us from within the hobby. Second, we've
- >done so in a public manner. It's important to realize that people can't
- >help us if they don't know about us, who we are, and what problems we're
- >encountering. Therefore, we must continue to be forthright and public in
- >our determination to be treated in a fair and just manner. We can't go
- >wrong as long as we tell the truth and seek justice. That's the reason why
- >the ARRL has been silent about LARC for eight years now. They can't easily
- >defend an unfair and unjust policy.
- >
- >I think a recap of our situation with the ARRL might be useful at this
- >time since some individuals have asked what we are seeking.
- >
- >Basically, we are seeking an agreement on the part of the ARRL to end the
- >discriminatory practices directed at LARC, adoption and publication of a
- >corporate non-discriminatory policy which includes sexual
- >minorities, recognition on their part that their past discriminatory practices
- >have hurt our organization, and a willingness on their part to work with
- >our club to repair the damage done to our organization and help us grow
- >consistent with the ARRL mission to promote amateur radio.
- >
- >It is important to note that our discrimination complaint remains pending
- >because the ARRL has not agreed to cease discriminatory practices against
- >LARC, in fact, they deny that they have discriminated against LARC. The
- >ARRL has said that they believe our complaint is moot since they have
- >agreed to run an ad which LARC submitted in 1991. However, LARC has no
- >guarantee that this decision would not be reversed and our ad once again
- >removed from the pages of QST. The Connecticut Commission on Human Rights
- >and Opportunities investigator has indicated, contrary to the statement
- >of ARRL officials, that the case is not moot.
-
- In other words you are suing the ARRL out of spite because they will not
- admit their non-existent guilt !
-
- Support immorality or we will sue you, this seems to be the gay's message.
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- >
- >LARC stands ready, as we have since 1985, to work with the ARRL for the
- >betterment of amateur radio. However, there is no place in amateur radio
- >for discrimination of any kind. We are prepared to negotiate a settlement
- >to our discrimination complaint. However, the ARRL has been silent on this
- >issue for eight years and has thus far not indicated a willingness to
-
- Maybe they haven't broken the law. Maybre the membership knows that the
- gays promote a dangerous lifestyle.
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- >negotiate, renounce past discriminatory policies, or work with LARC to
-
- Have they discriminated against gays ? Do you have any evidence of
- discrimination against gays other than their rejection of the gay add ?
-
- >promote amateur radio. Until such time as the leadership of the League
- >recognizes their obligation to renounce their past discriminatory policies
- >and practices once and for all, and return to spirit of their motto "Of, by
- >and for the radio amateur" including all amateurs, gay and straight, LARC
- >will continue to seek justice and fair treatment in the State of
- >Connecticut and in the court of public opinion.
- >
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- It is jerks like that that are forcing the ARRL to waste money on non
- amateur radio causes. I like many ARRL members believe that gay sexual
- practices are wrong and would oppose this settlement, even going as
- far as quitting the ARRL in protest.
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- >73,
- >
- >Jim, KK3K
- >
- >Jim Kelly, Amateur Radio Licensee KK3K (jimkelly@astro.ocis.temple.edu)
- >M.A. Candidate - Political Science - Temple University \
- >President - Lambda Amateur Radio Club for Sexual Minorities \
- Perversion
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- Rod N0NZO
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- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:10:08 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!news.eunet.no!nuug!news.eunet.fi!fuug!krk!krksun.krk.fi!tofi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Mac users!! Read this!!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi there
-
- I wonder if there are any QSO LOG-programs to the Macintosh.
- THANKS in advance.
-
- Kristoffer H{ggstr|m
- tofi@krk.fi
-
- PS. Please reply to my personal address.
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